[ntpwg] [ntp:hackers] Announcing the NTP Forum

[David L. Mills]

Harlan,

Over the years you and I have had very different views on many subjects, 
but have generally lived with them. The forum thing is another matter. 
This is a terribly bad idea. It appears to be a cross between a 
charitable organization and a lobby group and with no clear focus. There 
is no management plan, no schedule and no milestones. If you, and I mean 
you personally, are prepared to offer some service, either as sole 
principal or project manager, then propose the work to a funding agency, 
either private or government. That's the conventional approach and what 
most of us academic types have been doing for our adult lives.

There is of course the downside when proposals are not accepted, in 
which case a very real consideration is whether the work should be done 
in the first place. The NTP project is long of tooth, having been 
supported by both volunteers and gevernment for well over two decades. 
With the conclusion of the current RFC projects, the ongoing work is 
certainly sustainable via the current public lists and newsgroup. If 
there is further work to be done in the time area, it is probably better 
aimed at the new tictoc working group. Ongoing project support is 
probably more readily available in that venue.

Dave

Harlan Stenn wrote:

> Leif wrote:
>
>>> Leif, did I answer your question in there?
>>>
>>> H
>>
>
>> Yes you did. May I suggest that you explain more clearly that what you
>> list next to the projects is total funding requirements, rather than 
>> "price
>> of admission". Perhaps I'm damaged by seeing how other fora and SDOs
>> present themselves but I thought I was looking at a very strange sort of
>> membership fee structure.
>
>
> I understand - the membership levels are documented on the "Member
> Benefits" page, which is the "Benefits" link on the main page.
>
> You were looking at the Forum Projects page, which I have now updated.
> Could I impose on you to see if you think the updated page is OK?
>
> I'm also working on a "Why the NTP Forum is needed" page.
>
> Thanks for your feedback...
>
> H
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