[ntpwg] [dhcwg] Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) OptionsforDHCPv6

[TS Glassey]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Utterback" <brian.utterback at sun.com>
To: "TS Glassey" <tglassey at earthlink.net>
Cc: <ntpwg at lists.ntp.org>; <dhcwg at ietf.org>; "Ted Lemon" <mellon at fugue.com>; 
"Richard Gayraud (rgayraud)" <rgayraud at cisco.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [ntpwg] [dhcwg] Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) 
OptionsforDHCPv6


>
>
> TS Glassey wrote:
>> My real suggestion is that we need a Time and Trust Service Discovery 
>> protocol which would work sort of like how DHCP and DNS work but that 
>> also allows for critical events to be pushed forward as well. This would 
>> also work for CRL and OCSP type queries to satisfy validity of the 
>> underlying certificate source.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>
> Sounds great to me, Todd. I really think that you should pursue that.

I have - already. In fact there are several implementations already written 
too. One for Solaris and another port to OS/X. The problem is that I am not 
willing to give away any and all rights to this protocol specification as 
you folks have done by taking NTP into the IETF.

Better yet, look at the continuously revised participation requirements in 
the IETF and you will realize that most of this and all WG member's have 
committed fraud in representing to the IETF that they have a legal status to 
represent their sponsor's IP rights. I.e the new rules per BCP78/79.


> I don't think that this is that protocol and I don't think it is
> fair to hold up this one because it isn't that one.

My objection is in creating mandatory components of the NTP package which 
are not minimalistic. Implementing this code over DHCP would be a security 
nightmare from the Audit Perspective, so what I propose is that if you want 
to add this support - its you folks who make this a BCP for configuring and 
operating NTP.

Todd

> Write a spec,
> make a prototype and publish them, and then we can talk about that
> one.
>
> -- 
> blu
>
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