[ntpwg] KoD 'backoff' BCP/direction

Rob Seaman seaman at noao.edu
Mon Jun 2 16:19:09 UTC 2008


Hi Todd,

This has clearly passed the point of diminishing returns.

> I dont want or need to evaluate the NTP Successor

Ok.  Then my advice is to let this NTP update cycle finish and try to  
influence the next.  You don't appear to have any hope of gaining  
traction on these issues so late in the game.

> the best way to move forward is to use a uniform set of development  
> assignments (IP Rights) and their owners across the whole process.

You are discussing questions of design.  I am discussing questions of  
process.  Any development cycle starts with design issues and ends  
with implementation issues.  It is simply too late to influence the  
current cycle (other than to slow it down).

> The NTP.ISC.ORG operations are not doing that now but can easily be  
> setup to do so.

Write a white paper now, to influence decisions later.

> And BTW if you want to see if your organization supports that or  
> your assertions or mine here, lets get your general counsel  
> involved...

I don't recall making any assertions.  It would be pointless to  
construct an opinion on the skimpy basis available at the moment.   
 From your association with Certichron it is clear that you have a  
horse in this race.  I'm personally only interesting in seeing the  
race actually occur.

(BTW, I might find some other analogy than "trust-anchor".  It really  
conjures visions of walking the plank and having ones cargo of trust  
carried downward into the inky blackness.  An anchor is also only a  
temporary mooring, sometimes slips on the sea floor, and occasionally  
has to be cut loose and left behind.  A single anchor leaves the  
vessel free to swing willy-nilly in a large arc with the wind and  
water.)

> As I recall Carrie-Nunes was the Assistant/Acting GC for you folks,

Not sure who this is or who "you folks" refers to.

In any event, legal and economic use cases are indeed significant.   
I've spent eight years arguing this regarding leap seconds.  However,  
you haven't connected the dots to show that NTP is unresponsive to  
these.  In fact, your participation here suggests that no other  
technology is more mature for your purposes.  That being the case, it  
is to your own advantage to move the NTP standards process forward to  
provide yourself the opportunity of hopping aboard the next time the  
carousel goes by.

Rob



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