[ntpwg] [Fwd: Proposal to move all IETF Mail Lists to ietf.org]

[TS Glassey]

The IETF is rapidly reaching a point where it needs to provide legally 
strong proofs that it in fact is in control of the IP it claims it owns 
rights to. So yes this is absolutely critical - but it also means HACKERS 
needs to go inside the IETF as well as part of the NTPWG vetting/diligence 
process.

Todd Glassey
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stewart Bryant" <stbryant at cisco.com>
To: "Brian Haberman" <brian at innovationslab.net>
Cc: "NTP Working Group" <ntpwg at lists.ntp.org>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ntpwg] [Fwd: Proposal to move all IETF Mail Lists to ietf.org]


> My view is that all formal IETF discussion should happen on an ietf.org
> for the reasons that Russ lists below.
>
> Stewart
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> Brian Haberman wrote:
>> Any comments on this since the NTP list is hosted outside of the
>> ietf.org domain?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Brian
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Proposal to move all IETF Mail Lists to ietf.org
>> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:10:22 -0400
>> From: Russ Housley <housley at vigilsec.com>
>> To: wgchairs at ietf.org
>>
>> Dear WG Chairs:
>>
>> The transition from NSS to AMS for IETF Secretariat services has shed
>> light on many topics.  The light is not a result of things being done
>> improperly by one vendor or the other.  Rather, it is due to the
>> increased attention associated with the transition.  One of the
>> things that concerns me as IETF Chair is archives of IETF mail
>> lists.  The transition has clearly highlighted that we do not archive
>> non-ietf.org mail lists as consistently as ietf.org mail lists.
>>
>> The archive for non-ietf.org mail lists happens my enrolling a mail
>> list member to collect the messages for archival on the IETF web
>> site.  All kinds of things go wrong, and these members get dropped
>> from the mail list.  Also, the archive recipient sometimes get direct 
>> spam.
>>
>> To avoid these issues and to ensure that all IETF mail lists are
>> administered with a consistent policy, the IESG is considering moving
>> all IETF mail lists to ietf.org.
>>
>> Please let us know what you think about this idea.
>>
>> On behalf of the IESG,
>> Russ Housley
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