[ntpwg] KoD 'backoff' BCP/direction

[TSG]

Folks
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp at bsdimp.com>
To: <Brian.Utterback at Sun.COM>
Cc: <ntpwg at ntp.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ntpwg] KoD 'backoff' BCP/direction


> In message: <4842EAD5.1080506 at sun.com>
>            Brian Utterback <Brian.Utterback at Sun.COM> writes:
> : Rob Seaman wrote:
> : > So NTP is something that doesn't address the needs of your community.
> : > Which begs the question:  Why don't the auditors pay somebody to build
> : > a system that does?  They certainly have more money than the
> : > physicists.  Kind of embarrassing really if the auditors are failing
> : > to account for the proper value of timekeeping.
> : >
> :
> : Auditor's don't pay. Auditor's never pay. Auditor's issue requirements
> : and other people pay to meet them.
>

People pay auditor's for all kinds of things. The latest is for designing 
systems and workflow processes which speak for themselves. The real issue is 
that people generally speaking are not trustworthy - statistically 
everything is fine until you need to rely on their testimony and then 
everything changes.

But that wasn't the point - the real issue here is that IT Engineers should 
not be designing trust processes for commercial users without their 
involvement or their specifying what they need. Something this WG has never 
taken a survey in...

Todd